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Old 08-23-2010, 06:11 PM
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an update on the apostle Becks upcoming 'gathering' at Lincoln momorial, he still hasn't gotten a permit for the gathering. perhaps his plan is to not get a permit for the non function where he'll give his plan that isn't a plan. if there are no permits there will most likely be arrests. one could suppose that Beck is hoping he'll get arrested so he can claim "the government is trying to silence 'his' voice.
ugh!
Glenn's team posted a huge list of items written on what is permissible and what NOT to do, and what NOT to bring (things that are NOT permitted at the rally). So, if people attending fail to read the list of *doNOT's* -- it is not Glenn Beck's nor his team's fault for addressing some person who didn't read the *doNOT* list, etc.


When I came back visiting my sister, I couldn't believe the persons in front and behind me did NOT heed the airline security advisements. DoNOT bring water or liquid drinks to the security scanners.. Lady behind me had a water bottle and refused to give it up, and apologized claiming she didn't know the rules (she was with her daughter). Guy in front of me never took his loose change out of his pockets, nor his metal watch off.. The lady went thru, not sure if her bottle got taken away.. The guy failed the beeper thing twice and ended up getting wanded in a special x-ray unit.
LEE jeans with oodles of metal snap decor thingys and metal zipper -- are no-no's! learned that one years and years ago, and only wear skin-tight cat-suits now..
..and I usually worry more now about my bra hooks setting the dumb (scanner) thing off..!

hint--dress without any metals..!! Expect to buy water & drinks after getting clearance.
otherwise, if the security guy is properly doing their job ... BING,BING, BING, BING, BING to you, goes the checker..!!!!!!


anywho, sorry to disappoint the masses, but "The Permit" (for 8/28 w/Glenn Beck) has been issued.
"NPS Approves Controversial Rally"
(NPS = National Park Service)

Apparently the permit was revealed on Friday (August 20, 2010) that it was approved. As Glenn mentioned on his radio program today, most permits get issued within the same week or around a week ahead of the item it is permitted for.

I'm going to have to guess that it may be true.. or seems standard, because I remember waiting for ours on a simple home improvement, and the permit never showed up until around a week before the work was scheduled. Of course, I think the guys working on the improvements had to wait for the permit to get issued before they were certain of being able to work. It was 3 weeks of waiting and waiting in anticipation of wondering what in the world was holding the town's administrators up to issue the thing.. kept wondering if someone went on vacation, or something. I mean, they had an entire month's advance notice on writing it up and mailing it.. but city/town work zoned by the gov't often takes several levels of okay's before it gets to its final destination.

I could ask someone who works in Permitting what the average time is for issuing such things.

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Old 08-23-2010, 09:21 PM
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oh please, how many ordinary folks have GPS tracking equipment…. Unnnnleesss *Beck voice* it’s the "current admin out to silence voices like mine."
that whole museum incident may have been a test of their security equipment and done in a sort of practical joke sense.. to freak Glenn out, unless he okay'd it, and got a surprise test when he least expected it, and freaked out anyway, until he got pulled into the loop again. After one very recent event that had several listeners guessing, as one person said, it was pure genius what ended up getting broadcasted. It didn't matter to me if ratings was part of any goal, it was the entire team did to each other that freaked me out and had me in utter disbelief. I won't say what it was, but my jaw dropped for nearly a good half hour.. it was schtick to the hilt..!
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…. Unnnnleesss *Beck voice* it’s the "current admin out to silence voices like mine."
The Fairness Doctrine has been on the books for a while now, and still hasn't been ruled out completely. So, if the FCC shuts down certain radio/Tv talk hosts, it's *death* to the program, and those who would be directly affected know it would make finding future work in a different career a bit challenging for a while. It wouldn't affect Rush Limbaugh as much as it would affect Glenn Beck. Rush could care less and even encourages the government to spar into doing something drastic like that. Glenn at least has his family to consider, so of course Glenn is going to get a bit defensive when feeling like mediamatters and others are attacking almost his every word(s), whenever possible.


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the man is delusional... now he’s claiming there’s going to be some kind of miracle 8/27 at ‘his’ special civil rights gathering.
well, I have other feelings about that. I've got to give Glenn and Sean credit to hanging on so fiercely to their beliefs, but the way this world is going, I have my druthers on either way the future might go. If any miracle occurs, it would most likely be something personal to each person attending -- and not a national makeover or remakeover or takeover.

I doubt if the gov't would allow takeovers or throw-overs by "Restoring Honor -- 8/28 event".
And even if the USA gov't did allow such a thing, I seriously dread the ultimate back-lash plan would be to let the USA get annihilated (by any of the USA's world-wide "enemies") -- with everyone else in America being thrown into the catastrophe mix as well, regardless.

One other item. August 28 is supposed to be the anniversary of 1963's
Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream speech".
In the Bible chapter/verse Romans 8:28 is often referred to as representing a new beginning
with "all things working together for good".. the number 8 = a new beginning. Romans 8:28 is
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(Romans 8:28) "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."
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Maybe there will be a new beginning. Glenn and Sean (Hannity) certainly believe that for this November.
I have my druthers. Maybe the *good* is actually whatever the current gov't admin will be doing to enforce their own governing power into action over the next several years. That might dash the hopes and dreams of everyone siding and seeing Glenn Beck after his 8/28 event is done and over with, but help those who oppose them. Maybe that sounds a bit contrary to what conservatives would like to hear, but there is a world plan being hurled into action these very moments, and nothing is going to change that. If America gets cast out, and suffers severely for it, then it's America's own fault. If America joins the world movement(s), then it is destined to join the throngs of what will befall the fate of the entire planet. And only *time* will reveal what that ultimate future will be.
(and yes, I got those impressions from Bible prophecies (shaping up with the {Biblically recorded} alignment of various nations against Israel) and the various speculations from several Christian sites discussing the possible scenarios.)
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Old 08-27-2010, 02:29 PM
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that whole museum incident may have been a test of their security equipment and done in a sort of practical joke sense.. to freak Glenn out, unless he okay'd it, and got a surprise test when he least expected it, and freaked out anyway, until he got pulled into the loop again.
then his paranoya got in the way.

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The Fairness Doctrine has been on the books for a while now, and still hasn't been ruled out completely. So, if the FCC shuts down certain radio/Tv talk hosts, it's *death* to the program,
lots of ppl don't understand what The Fairness Doctrine is. it won't close down radio/Tv talk hosts that just more fearmongering bs rhetoric. The Fairness Doctrine does is enforce actualy "fair and balenced reporting. IE for one pro voice there must be one oposition voice. this other clap trap they're screaching about is false.


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It wouldn't affect Rush Limbaugh as much as it would affect Glenn Beck. Rush could care less and even encourages the government to spar into doing something drastic like that.
yeah, the Lushy (and Beckster) would love for the gov to shut them down. i was listening to a varity of Lush sound bites, in one of them the caller was telling a story about how 33 years ago he (the caller) as a "token Republican" like there were ppl being discriminated against for their political views. he was telling about a place that he worked for in Quincy Michigan. Lushy had to go to commercial. so when he comes back he spouts: "so Obama applied for or was working in Quincy Michegan 33 years ago." no Lushy, that's not what the caller said. hear for youself.

Rush on "arrogan[t]" Obama: He's like "some" African-Americans who say "Fourth of July ain't no big deal to me, yo"

btw Lushy ole just say whatever pops out of your mouth and call it truth.

#1. Pres Obama was 16 in 1977.
#2. Pres Obama was still attending high school in Hawaii in 1977.

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guess in Lushy's mind Obama has to provide his school records to prove differently. maybe in 77, he just snuck out of his bedroom window at night and swam to Michigan for his job in Quincy, and then swam back in time to attend hs classes.

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Glenn at least has his family to consider, so of course Glenn is going to get a bit defensive when feeling like mediamatters and others are attacking almost his every word(s), whenever possible
maybe if he didn't spew so much venom and hate ppl wouldn't 'attack' his holy words.

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it's not supposed to be, it is th 47th anniversary of "I Have a Dream" speech, where MLK preached: acceptance, equality, tolerance. oh yeah, the funny part of the return to Beckka Day is a map that was issued telling everyone how to 'avoid the black parts of DC' be afraid! be very afraid.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:11 AM
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lots of ppl don't understand what The Fairness Doctrine is. it won't close down radio/Tv talk hosts that just more fearmongering bs rhetoric. The Fairness Doctrine does is enforce actualy "fair and balenced reporting. IE for one pro voice there must be one oposition voice. this other clap trap they're screaching about is false.
It seems the networks who are anti-Republican and anti-conservative with more liberal slants are very biased and going with pro-Democrat or pro-liberal and smack the other guys regardless of how it is reported.

It's actually more of a network vs. network battle of which side of the spectrum a particular network will actually emphasize most upon.

I have seen moments where FoxNews didn't seem to balance its share out, except via infomercials as the *balancing* side of neutrality. I've also seen the same with CNN and the ABC, CBS, NBC or the top 6 local news (half-hour to hour news per each evening only) networks. Fox Tv channel is different from FOXNEWS cable.

So, if 5 entire networks veer more into the PRO-Democrat and PRO-Liberal stance, whereby only ONE or two other networks veer more into the pro-Republican / more conservative perspectives, how "Fair and Balanced" is that..? Seems more like its the more Liberal networks who (verbally) gang up on the one or two more conservative networks, leaving the conservative network with the catch-22 of either ignore the other networks, or stand up for what their differences are -- either way, the conservative network(s) will end up getting attacked, so it seems -- one for taking a stand and (verbally) fighting back or ignoring the comments and getting declared as *wimps!!

Seems like the entire network slanting issues is taking on more of a MAX HEADROOM effect, where the one or two pro-conservative network is constantly under attack by the massive Liberal media network controller folks.
"Max headroom" was a fictional TV program and situations, tho.


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it's not supposed to be, it is th 47th anniversary of "I Have a Dream" speech, where MLK preached: acceptance, equality, tolerance.
Rev. Al Sharpton either coincidentally or deliberately chose 8/28 to do an opposing *march* and was literally *marching* not just blabbing about civil rights, which Rev. Al Sharpton felt "he" had the truth of what the whole message of the day was -- in contrast to MLK's own niece, who showed up to speak at Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally. In other words, Rev. Al Sharpton was claiming he had more of a handle on what Martin Luther King spoke about in his own "I Have a Dream" speech, than MLK's own Niece..??!

Besides, Rev. Al Sharpton missed the whole point of Glenn Beck's 8/28 rally -- it was to help the fallen men and women (physically / literally) fighting against the war on terror, and getting killed or maimed in the process. The funds raised by this 8/28 rally are to go to the families of these guys and gals and help their kids go to college via grants provided (from the funds collected). These are not loans, with expectations of being paid back, these are scholarship funds.
Glenn Beck's rally (in honor of *freedom*) event on 8/28/2010 ----

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"...were able to raise more than $5-million dollars for the Special Operations Warrior Foundation."

{glennbeck -- website
"Restoring Honor 8/28"
August 28, 2010 - 23:22 ET}
oh, conspiracy issue or not, Fox Tv channel (not FoxNews cable) was supposed to broadcast a special interview with Glenn Beck this morning at 10 a.m. regarding yesterday's 8/28 rally. Odd problem.. NO TV channel.. just got the blank color bars for the entire hour. So, was that a deliberate NETWORK BLACKOUT or technical issue..? Apparently, the interview special got aired somewhere, but not in many households who tuned in to watch it.
Found a comment on one of the news blogs stating---

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(posted by Barbara... August 29, 2010 at 9:40 am)
There was no sound AND no picture around 10-am. hmmmm.. FCC or someone else blocking or jamming it..?? seems like echoes of MAX HEADROOM's network broadcasting conspiracies... (i.e., specific network programming being blocked..???)


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...oh yeah, the funny part of the return to Beckka Day is a map that was issued telling everyone how to 'avoid the black parts of DC' be afraid! be very afraid.
There was word months ago on Glenn's radio program that one or two of the "new Black Panthers" guys -- who openly (on a recorded tape) claimed to hate ALL whites and cracker babies (not sure if that is meant as being *insane* or on the "crack" substance drug/abuse) -- may be attending Glenn Beck's rally, or at least being nearby for the sole purpose of....???
(implied was intentions of disruptive behaviors being inflicted or people being deliberately attacked just for being in the area).

People called in after hearing that and were deeply disturbed about attending, because of the threat implied. Glenn tried his best to reassure about the security being set up.
But still, not sure if avoiding certain locations in DC or elsewhere was a tongue, deeply rooted in cheek comment or real-deal precautionary measure. Camden NJ and parts of Philly, PA are well-known Black Panther (gang home) dens, and the police in NJ were the ones warning "white folks" to stay away at night, because the POLICE will NOT come to their rescue, etc.
The NJ/PA situations are real threats -- not just idle words. Not sure about the DC area(s).

Psychology is a dangerous weapon.. Don't need Iran's president to yell nuclear anything against the USA, when domestic *psycho* threats originate right on USA soil and in USA neighborhoods.
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It seems the networks who are anti-Republican and anti-conservative with more liberal slants are very biased and going with pro-Democrat or pro-liberal and smack the other guys regardless of how it is reported.
this is just for newspapers: Black and White and Re(a)d All Over | Media Matters for America

i posted several times about the % of 'liberal' compaired to % of concervative in other threads. don't feel like looking it all up again. the fact is 90% of 'media' is conservative.

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it was to help the fallen men and women (physically / literally) fighting against the war on terror, and getting killed or maimed in the process. The funds raised by this 8/28 rally are to go to the families of these guys and gals and help their kids go to college via grants provided (from the funds collected). These are not loans, with expectations of being paid back, these are scholarship funds.
Glenn Beck's rally (in honor of *freedom*) event on 8/28/2010 ----
what they didn't tell you (and is in the fine print on Becky's site) is that first funds will be used to pay for the event: security, space for rally, guest speakers etc. whatever is left over will go to the troops.
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btw, the so-called Fairness Doctrine is passay, noone is trying to pass it. it is only being used as a fright tool by the fright-right to whip up the less informed.
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Rev. Al Sharpton was claiming he had more of a handle on what Martin Luther King spoke about in his own "I Have a Dream" speech, than MLK's own Niece..??!
The "Reverend" is like an outboard in a sesspool, always stirring up poop.
Sharpton's only way of making himself heard is he whines "racism". He is a professional race card thrower. I'm surprised he can make a speech w/out yelling "Jena 6" over and over. I really don't know who's worse, him or the "Rev." Jesse Jackson. Well...the're both racist, so I guess it's a tie!!!
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Yes, and you are an expert on racists attitudes, just like Blech, and Limpy and the other FAUX morons.
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The "Reverend" is like an outboard in a sesspool, always stirring up poop.
Sharpton's only way of making himself heard is he whines "racism". He is a professional race card thrower. I'm surprised he can make a speech w/out yelling "Jena 6" over and over. I really don't know who's worse, him or the "Rev." Jesse Jackson. Well...the're both racist, so I guess it's a tie!!!
i would suggest you read the books: "Native Son" and "Black Boy" by Richard Wright if you would truly like to learn and understand about racism and it's harsh effects on Americans with different skin tones.
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